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Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16, 2017. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!? We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.? This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!? This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2016. 58 Replies

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.? Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on…Continue

Tags: firebrand atheism, Fighting God, David Silverman

 

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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

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Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"We thought that replacing the singular, authoritative voice of the twentieth century newscaster with the digitally-enabled vox populi of the internet would forever change the narrative. All it did was ruin the spelling. ~Gordon White"
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Loren Miller replied to Al Wm Johnson's discussion Supernatural Silliness
"Little girls! I am in the business of putting old heads on young shoulders, and all my pupils are the creme de la creme. Give me a girl at an impressionable age and she is mine for life. -- Miss Jean Brodie, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie There have…"
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"Equality is not the empirical claim that all groups of humans are interchangeable; it is the moral principle that individuals should not be judged or constrained by the average properties of their group. -- Steven Pinker I don't think anyone…"
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Loren Miller replied to Ruth Anthony-Gardner's discussion Sometimes Mainstream Media Fact Checking Is Intellectually Incoherent in the group Media Issues
"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is something of a rarity in politics; she's a FIREBRAND.? What makes her even more dangerous is that she's a firebrand who knows her facts and is prepared to defend them and herself against the kind of BS…"
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"I have to believe that the second this became law, the FFRF, Americans United, and the ACLU at minimum were geared up to go after ANY such effort to teach the bible exclusively in schools and go after them tooth and nail.? Judicial decisions on…"
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"Scholarly ... comprehensive ... balanced ... and INCLUSIVE ... which means both the good and the bad get examined and critiqued.? The Christers won't like that at all, of course, to which I say, tough shit.? I'd be curious to…"
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exposing abuse | Jehovah's Witnesses on trial | part 2 (TheraminTrees)

We need to focus on the institution, not the individual priests. Practice and policy; show me the church manipulated the system so that these guys wouldn't have to face charges, show me they put those same priests back into parishes time and time again. Show me this was systemic, that it came from the top, down. -- Marty Baron, Former Boston Globe Executive Editor, as cited in the movie Spotlight That was the Roman Catholic Church that the Globe was investigating. As it turns out, the…See More
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I'm STILL Mad As Hell

You remember the movie Network, don’t you? Peter Finch as veteran UBS anchorman Howard Beale, growling into a TV camera, “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!” That was a potent declaration of independence and non-conformance that Beale made. The only problem is that he shrunk away from it not that much later, in the face of billionaire mogul Arthur Jensen. Jensen’s sole purpose was to use Beale as a Pied Piper to mollify the peasantry, the better to pursue his own plans,…See More
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Loren Miller replied to Loren Miller's discussion Hate Crimes On The Increase Under Trump in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"In China, I think it's the plain and simple fact that for them, life is literally CHEAP, but I don't think that has anything to do with the situation of hate crime in the US.? Here, rather than having China's largely homogeneous…"
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Tom Sarbeck replied to Loren Miller's discussion Hate Crimes On The Increase Under Trump in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"China has long been the world’s most populated nation. It has also long placed the lowest value on life. Is it causation, correlation, or both? What is it in the USA?"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"No kidding, Bertold.? So far, all the concept of god has done is to narrow our vision, to make us smaller, meaner, more frightened and less generous or loving.? I have about as much use for that as a snake has for shoes."
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Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"If the concept of God has any use, it is to make us larger, freer, and more loving. If God can't do that, it's time we got rid of him." ~James Baldwin"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"I want to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible. -- Matt Dillahunty I have always preferred knowledge to belief, after the previously posted Carl Sagan quote, but if I cannot be practically certain that what I know is…"
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The following was on page A8 of the February 1, 2019 edition of the Plain Dealer this morning: This was hardly news to me, but I figured I'd dig in a bit and Googled "California hate crimes increase".? Among the over six million hits I got was the following: FBI: Hate crimes in U.S., CA surge in first year of Trump’s presidency (San Francisco Chronicle) U.S. hate crimes…See More
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Loren Miller commented on Little Name Atheist's group Atheist Ailurophiles
"GC, I heard Eric's Animal Crackers years ago, and it was wonderfully funny back then, mostly thanks to the poetry of Ogden Nash, which it draws from.? "The Cow" and "The Firefly" are worth an audition as well."
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Loren Miller replied to Ruth Anthony-Gardner's discussion Theist Assault
"They want to teach biblical literacy?? Fine – so long as they also teach the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Zend Avesta, tales and teachings of the Buddha ... you get my drift.? In any case, I fully expect the Freedom From Religion…"
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At 6:06pm on January 31, 2019, Ronnie said…
Thank you for greeting loren
At 7:39am on August 18, 2018, Bexs said…

thanks for the welcome....

At 9:24am on July 17, 2018, Bertold Brautigan said…

I'd look at the book as more of a fun reference than something you'd plow through. Warren is one hell of a writer though.

At 2:04pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Hello Loren! I believe the issue is fixed. Thank you again for the help!

At 1:48pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Thank you for taking the tie to write to me Loren and for letting me know of such error on my blog. I am currently working to fix this issue. It is strange but I am contacting Google to see if the can help with the issue.

Greetings and hope all is well!

At 12:18am on April 24, 2018, Prasenjit Konar said…

Namaste...Thank you so much!

At 12:05pm on April 23, 2018, Jim Gardner said…

Thanks..Glad I found this site..

At 1:46pm on April 8, 2018, Vine said…
Thanks for the welcome, Loren. I agree that there's nothing wrong with fantasy for fun. Unfortunately, the line between fantasy and delusion seems very thin, and people often cross that line without realizing it. One example is the admirer who becomes a stalker. Another is the "casual Christian" (which I once was, having been raised that way) who becomes an evangelical.
At 12:48pm on February 18, 2018, shane clark said…

Thanks for the welcome Loren,Greetings to all from New Zealand, it's currently 7.45 am Monday morning....so if you want to know the future???? just ask me :-).? oh and by the way....jesus is coming....its pissing down with rain here at the moment....see infalible proof, anyone got a towel?

?i look forward to learning more of Dan Barker and Jerry De Witt.

?

all the best people, keep up the good work

best regards shane

At 6:13pm on January 9, 2018, Chris said…

Great quote Loren.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
-- Upton Sinclair

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I'm STILL Mad As Hell

Posted on February 1, 2019 at 9:10am 0 Comments

You remember the movie Network, don’t you? Peter Finch as veteran UBS anchorman Howard Beale, growling into a TV camera, “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!” That was a potent declaration of independence and non-conformance that Beale made. The only problem is that he shrunk away from it not that much later, in the face of billionaire mogul Arthur Jensen. Jensen’s sole purpose was to use Beale as a Pied Piper to mollify the peasantry, the better to pursue his own…

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The Real World Always Wins

Posted on January 2, 2019 at 8:40am 4 Comments

Some time back, I was watching a conference on YouTube, featuring some notable high-end audio equipment designers. What does that have to do with atheism, you might well ask. Well, one of the designers present, in talking about design theory and best practices, made mention of being “skeptical” of these standards, and then he dropped the following bombshell:



In a battle between theory and the real world, the real world always wins.

-- Kevin Hayes, VAC



I…

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Religion in Government – The "Back Door" Problem

Posted on December 3, 2018 at 7:40am 28 Comments

My copy of FFRF’s Freethought Today recently went upside my head with a statement quoted on Page 3 of their November 2018 issue:



The bottom line is that while church and state are formally separated, religious legislators are still driven by their religious beliefs when voting in the Senate on all issue areas. This mechanism circumvents the formal separation of church and state and brings religion into politics through the back door.

-- Daniel Arnon, Emory…

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Conversion Therapy, Revisited

Posted on November 11, 2018 at 10:40am 14 Comments

I am FURIOUS … again. With the advent of the new film, Boy Erased, and renewed attention to the “business” of conversion therapy, I am reminded once again of the arrogance displayed by the evangelical Christian community in thinking that, because Yahweh condemned men for loving other men and women for loving other women, that it was somehow incumbent on them to attempt to correct this supposed flaw in their personalities. Also reminding me of this issue was…

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