The World's Largest Coalition of Nontheists and Nontheist Communities!
Jewish Settlers in the West Bank are still attacking and persecuting Palestinians.
Personally I think Israel should not be supported by the West and be forced to hand the occupied territories back to the Palestinians.
Because a stupid set of fake books and Zionist propagandists conning the British into giving them land is no real solid basis for existence of a territory.?
But Zionism is still gaining strength and Jews are more determined to take over the land they claim their dumb, outdated God / Yahweh, gave to them.??
When factually there never was any actual Israel in the past nor any valid claim for the territory, since Jews were an offshoot of Canaanite Arabs originally.
Jews to Canaanite religion is the same relationship as Mormons to Christianity.
Offshoots created by charlatans.
The Jewish settlers are still trying to steal land from the Palestinians today.
Al Nakba ( the Zionist persecution of Palestinians) lives on.?
You are embarrassing yourself Dog. You are making the claim that derivation of a word negates the reality of history! Holy crap, what are you smoking?
Jews are people, not a cult. You can argue that Judaism, a religion practiced by some Jews is a cult. But some Jews are atheists, others are buddhists. Same argument about cults is of course applicable to Islam.?
People don't belong to land!? Land is inanimate and therefore incapable of ownership. Again with the claim about race! Race is by most accounts a construct. But Jews are a distinct ethnic people. Genetics proves this. Do some research if you are so inclined. In terms of making the argument that Jews are a mixture of peoples and therefore not pure-that is an infantile argument as we all know that people everywhere fuck other peoples. Thus it is that on ancestry.com and similar companies people are surprised to find out that they have 8 percent Jewish dna or some such number...
Jews are by virtue of dna and culture a distinct ethnic group. Jews have two languages of their own. There are as aforementioned a whole slew of Jewish? cultural ways. If you want a good read to understand Jewish culture i recommend Life is with people: The culture of the shtetl.
Truth is not as you would have it...it is not aesthetic...it does not bend to your hatred.?
As my ex-Jewish friends agree with me, they are not Jews.
To be a Jew, means you identify with the Jewish cult of the Torah / Talmud.?
They have no DNA defining them as Jewish.
They are Non-Jews, because they divorced themselves from Judaism.
If they are atheists, they are no longer Jews.
There is no such thing as Jewish DNA. :p?
They are a mixture of Canaanite, Assyrian and other DNAs from the region of Judea in the 8th to 5th Centuries BCE.
Archaeology and Anthropology both show us this fact that when the Philistines invaded Canaan and part of Egypt, many Canaanites and Egyptians and even Assyrians fled to the hills of Judea, where they formed colonies and mixed thus forming the heritage of what we now know as the People of Judea or the origin of the Jews, but it was not known as Israel at the time.?
So they are a DNA conglomerate and the most dominant of the DNA traits would take hold.
Just as in any mixed culture.
Some Jews don't speak in Hebrew but Yiddish instead.
Such as the Ashkenazi Jews who have a lot of German and Roman DNA in their mix.
These Ashkenazi Jews make up around 75% of Jews worldwide.
And Ashkenazi DNA tracks back to Turkey, not Judea.?
Like Jews, the Arabs also speak Semitic languages like Aramaic.?
So being anti-Palestinian is also Antisemitism. :D?
Fascinating! Have you ever seen a map of their migration?
Jews Are The Genetic Brothers Of Palestinians, Syrians, And Lebanese. This study reports:?
"If a common heritage conferred peace, then perhaps the long history of conflict in the Middle East would have been resolved years ago. For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years."
"The events described in the Genesis account of Abraham did not occur, making the actual existence of Abraham quite improbable."
So, there goes the "Abrahamic" myth, down the river of time. Why does the author?make this claim?
Thanks Joan, though there is some evidence the city of Sodom may have existed, in that it appears that they found the ruins of a village, not so much a city that had been destroyed by a huge gas and brimstone (sulfur) based fire / explosion.
The people built their city over an unstable outcrop of volcanic rock, which had gas pockets and leaks, as well as being high in sulfur.?
This was a dangerous place to light any fires, and possibly they lit a fire in the wrong spot which would have resulted in a massive explosion and having it raining brimstone like a shower of thousands of burning meteorites.
So like much on mythology goes, they take legendary events and construct fanciful scenarios around those events to make their God(s) appear powerful.?
Citing your friends as authority is even worse than the fallacy of argument from authority. You have no evidence or logic for your arbitrary and capricious assertion that to be a Jew means you identify with the jewish cult of the Torah/talmud. To be English do you have to identify with the Anglican church? The world according to the spin dog is fraught with assaults on reason and tendentious self-serving conclusions.?
It is true there is no dna that is jewish. In fact 99.9 percent of dna of humans is shared. But you can similarly assert there is no specific Spanish, Irish or Romanian dna. In fact the entire gist of your argument about ancestry is as usual applicable to all ethnic groups. But then you as other anti-semites? have special rules and double standards for Jews. Don't bother with another of your misguided and meaningless semantic arguments about anti-semitism or racism.?
In fact there are genetic likenesses among Jews way greater than people at large. There are mutations shared among Jews. There are at least three diseases carried by Jews. There is very high incidence of lactose intolerance. All of your suggestions about the mythology of Jewish origins and about mixing with other people is a straw dog. Every ethnic group has mythology about origins and mixing with other peoples. But don't let facts get in the way of your antisemitic diatribes.?
It would have been so much better if the Germans had believed as you do that Jewish people simply means they believe in Judaism. Unfortunately the Germans were aligned with reality and knew Jews were a people.?
Another False Equivalency Fallacy, yet again from you Frankie ol' not very bright M8! :p?
Question: What does it mean to be a Jew?
My friends have some authority or more than you in that they were born of a Jewish family and from the moment they were born they were supposed to celebrate Jewish festivals, all of which are Talmud based.
So if it is a culture, it is based on Judaic law which is based on the Torah, which is based on contrived bronze age BS.?
Judaism is based on a fake history and a fake culture.
Everything about it is BS.
They were supposed to observe Shabbat, Hanukkah, Yom Kippur, etc....
Since everything is based on the Talmud, it is rather cultish.
Being English, which I'm not is based on a Monarchic entity or the Queen of England, it is not based on a religion since England existed prior to King Henry VIII and his church of England.
Being British is being part of a commonwealth.
Again the identity is continental or based on a land of origin.
None of the modern Jews emanated from Judea.?
I have a very mixed ancestry, though all European, mostly Irish, Prussian and Scottish.?
So to be a Jew, means you are supposed to observe Jewish ideology, which is an ideology based entirely on absolute BS.
If the Romans did not quash the Simon bah Kokhba? uprising, Jews would be as bad as ISIS and Judaism would be as bad as Islam.
Because, where did you think Islam got all of its hard core ideology from??
Judaism, of course!?
The murdering of infidels, adulterers, gays, sorcerers and apostates are all from the Torah.
Essentially Islam and the Koran is the Torah on steroids.?
So if Israel is allowed to become a hard line Jewish state, the world will see another Islam emerging.
As already rabbis have been calling for the ousting of Christians and atheists from Israel, to make it a Jewish state.
You really don't understand the lion lurking under the sheepskin of moderate Judaism.
My friends and I do! :p?
I've studied the history and archaeology of religion.
I have far more evidence for my claims than you will ever have.
Try reading "The Bible Unearthed" which is an? exploration of the origins of Judaism.
So you continue to support an argument from authority even though it is an accepted fallacy and even though you have given no indication of authority in your so called friends.? That is brilliant. (sarcasm there ol buddy)
Jewish culture is not dependent on religion. There is so much to jewish culture in attitude towards learning and justice, towards humor and a certain outlook to life, in being part of a culture and people who have survived against all odds with the christian and muslim world being so hostile and jews always being in the minority. There is a oneness in having risen to the top in various nations even when all of the discrimination and persecution might have stopped a less determined culture.? I have given you a source that explores that culture. Again your argument is arbitrary. Subtract religion from any people and a culture exists independent of the religion.?
I have conceded that the mythology is mythology, that religion is bullshit in all of its iterations. So what? Religion is unfortunately a source of great harm among Jews as among all people but be that as it may, it does not invalidate a people and its culture. Your constant arbitrary and aesthetic assertions are growing old just like the propaganda you perceive in zionist plots.?
Israel is in danger of becoming another Islam? That is so far beyond hyperbole that is does not warrant an argument.?
The idea that you on the one hand lambaste and ridicule judaism and then use judaism as the sine qua non of jewishness is typical of your myopic and pea-brain. You seem incapable of analyzing anything. To trot out that semantic argument in Spain is evidence enough of your deficiencies as a thinker.?
BTW: Hebrew originated as a Canaanite language, long before the existence of Jews.
So Hebrew was not their own language, it was spoken by the ancestors of most modern Arab cultures, it was one of many early Semitic languages spoken throughout the southern Mediterranean region during the bronze age.?
The Jews adopted it because the writers of their foundation texts used Hebrew, likely by Ezra and his scribes.?
Had Ezra and his cohorts written the Torah in Aramaic, then Aramaic would be the language of the Jews.
Frankie evidently doesn't know that non-Jews can convert to Judaism by studying scripture and passing tests set by he Rabbinic Council.
The fact that being Jewish is decided by a religious order, makes Judaism and thus being Jewish a part of a religious cult.?
Like you can become American by marrying an American, you can become British by marrying a Brit.?
But you cannot become Jewish by marrying a Jew, as to become accepted as a Jew, even if married to a Jew, still requires testing and passing by the Rabbinic Council of that region.?
Judaism is a stupid religion and Jews are part of a stupid cult. :p?
Which is why my ex-Jewish friends ( there are several of them) are no longer Jews, as they married atheists and are now atheists themselves, never again to consider themselves as Jews.
So there is really no such thing as a Jewish atheist, they can only ever be Atheists.
That makes sense, just as there is no such thing as a Roman Catholic atheist or a Southern Baptist atheist.?
Go ahead and break bread with the racists Joan.
You also want to deny jewish culture and ancestry. Don't let history or reality confuse you.